Les Chiens de Guerre

Found this while going through the French part of the Forum


Anyone got any ideas as to what Spadassins might be??

Spadassins are troupers for the Westerners army.

As basic warriors and refering previous packaging, we should find 2 miniatures into this extension box.

Excellent, grunts without guns, hoping we would see some of these

demons of flesh eh. interesting.

If memory serves me right, while the Spadassins were sword fighters they were also nasty buggers.  Think stereotypical highwayman/bandit.  As such, there is the possibility of them having some sort of pistol.

Excellent, can't wait for these guys then ;D

Found the Mercenary Gilles De Rais on wikipedia, now hell really is a fitting place for this guy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais

a pleasant chap by all accounts.

I knew that name sounded familiar!  He was in the Jeanne D`Arc computer game.  People were complaining that he was portrayed as a nice bloke in it.

Find below the link to a translation I did for TGN a long time ago. It was the introduction of the mercenary faction
http://arch01.forum.helldorado.fr/index.php?topic=1971.0

You should be interrested by the part describing Gilles de Rais.

Very nice bit of fluff that.

So I take it Gilles will be an officer for the merc faction then?

I don't suppose anyone could fill us in on what the various factions releases will be, so far we have

Spadassins - Soldier/Trooper
Gilles de Rais - Officer??

Westerners: Spadassins (troupers)

Mercenaries: Gilles de Rais (officer) and Helle Moller (independant)

Lost: Etruscilla (officer) and Saurav Geet (independant)

Saracens: Jafar (independant) and Houri (independant)

Demons: Demons of flesh  (troupers)

Thanks ;D

If you are talking about the orders and stuff for this wave (and the remaining ones), some of them already are in this thread (http://arch01.forum.helldorado.fr/index.php?topic=1965.0). The rest will follow shortly.

Blimey that was quick.

The Mouner from the Demons faction sounds very intriguing, but by the looks of it will be in the wave 7 releases :o

I have been lucky enough to be at the GenCon Paris this week end and I didn't miss this opportunity to discover the miniatures from the wage 6, including the Mourner


So now the official wave 6 is

Westerners: x2 Spadassins (troupers)

Mercenaries: Gilles de Rais (officer) and Helle Moller (independant)

Lost: Etruscilla (officer) and Saurav Geet (independant)

Saracens: Jafar (independant) and Houri (independant)

Demons: x1 Demon of flesh  (troupers) and x1 Mourner (independant)

And doesn't that wave finish off the Demons, Westerners, and Saracens from the book?

Yes. I believe Geof had already mentioned it. The last wave will be a squamata and 4 mercs boxes.

Find bellow a link to a painting of Gilles de Rais.

Look at the picture showing a dark knight with the introduction Pour notre part, on n’est pas reparti les mains vides (enfin Haekel), puisqu’on a volé le trophée Asmodée, une imposante lithographie de Gilles de Rais :
It will give you a good idea of what the miniature will look like understanding the green is really similar.

http://haekel.free.fr/spip.php?article120

I have been lucky enough to see it during the French GenCon and trust me, from my point of view, it is definitevely the best miniature Asmodee has produced so far.

So can someone tell me what Jafar and Houri are, other than Independants?  I recall something about an Efreet or another Djinn, but that could be wishful thiking.

Jafar is the independant Djinn, who gets better as models on the board die. The Houri is a title, not a name - think harem girl.

Mathieu's Consolidated Orders/Auras thread has their details in it.

Wow, that's great.  That's the kind of beatstick we need.  Can't wait to see them.

yeah ive been waiting for ages for him. he's going to be the default saracen beatstick me reckons (hopefully with intangible) and if his model is anywhere near as cool as chams then i'll be happy.

saracens i feel need a pure beatstick, the lancer fills this role to a degree but he lacks the ability to take the hits that get past his defense. want something along the lines of a grand dammed of wraths fighting prowess but obviously differant and a bit less straight forward. looking forward to him.  :D

Hes not really a beat stick as he cant do anything until combatants start dying (then he gets perminant +1, but he starts at 0) He has regeneration, ricochet and intangible and is 24 pts.

Now the dancing girl is what looks good to me. Gains +1 CMD when a friendly non insignificant dies within 6" which is perminant, but also for 3 CMD she can cancel a models attack (then still get hit but ont fight back) cant remember if it unique but if its not the stick her in a high CMD army and get her to dance their best fighter out of the game. She also has charisma to make troopers better   

The Houri were humans and jinn who entered paradise after being recreated anew and sensually perfect in the afterlife.

They are the actual manifestation of the pure physical pleasures of heaven.

No wonder the Houri in the game is as distracting as she is :D

 now the thingy wit Guiles  he is a whooping 94 points  the 24 reinforment make him a 70 point  at the end but still  has he have no prestige  can only hire   merc...  the  idea is to load your  200 point with independents  and  select the cheaps troops  as reinforcment ...    merc have no independent under  24 points  so it will be quite  a challenge  to  fill those 24 points

spadassins   have  first strike  so it is a  chance they will  cause enoug damage before  start  dying away

Hey Guys,

New to the game and I've picked up all the Demon releases todate.

I checked out the wave 6 demon release - Demons: x1 Demon of flesh  (troupers) and x1 Mourner (independant)

I'm concerned  mixing troopers with independants.  If I want to run multiple trooper models I don't want to pay for multiple indpendant models that I cannot use or do  not want to field more than one....

How many Mourners can you field?

Jim
 

 

The Mourner is "limited 2" so you may play up to 2 into your faction.

i dont think the demons of flesh and the mourner will be in the same box, independants and troopers so far come in seperate boxes, even if they do you could always split a box with someone or sell the unwanted stuff on ebay etc. this game is really popular and i doubt you would have any trouble finding someone to take them off your hands one way or another.

I think they will come in a box as the demon of flesh is a big blob of arms, legs and eyes. It'll be like the worm pile and the character for the Lost. Plus they all ready said it'll be in the same box :P

unusual for them to do that. either way if you dont want one them someone is bound to want t'other.

i like the discription of the demon of flesh, sounds very cool

Every extension wave presented the same configuration: One box per faction.

Wave 6 will not be the exception to this rule so it is definitively confirmed: the Mourner and the Demon of Flesh will be into the same box regarless their relative rank.

You may argue there is a mix between independant and trouper into the same box (which is new). And you will be right. But you have to keep in mind these wave is supposed to be the last one for most of the factions and these two profils where the only still available for the Demons.

fair play i just assumed because we hadnt had a box with an independant and a trooper in that we wouldnt get them together now. dont really mind as i wanted both minis anyways  ;D

regarding the wave 6, I just would like to remind you this wave has been offcially delayed for many good reasons (the happiest one is the recent paternity of JAG and Thomas David, both sculptors and painters for this game).

It will be sold out end of August rahter than End of June as initialy planned.

Be also aware the wave 7 will be composed of 1 entexsion box for the Lost faction and four or five boxes (TBC) for the Mercenaries.  It will be the last one proposing profils from the current rulebook.

will wave 7 be out in sept then?

I'm really glad that they've come out and been honest to us about this.

Keeping a two months gap between each wave I expect the wave 7 more for the end of October.

theres a 2 month gap you say?

I've only just got into this game a week before the last release, so looks like I got into it at just the right time. shame it's a while for the next releases. but shall give me plenty of time to paint, purchase the deamons and paint them.

Demons ?  Thought you were a Saracen player ?

It's the lure of boobies, it gets us all in the end.....

well, I get paid well, it's either that or buy that private number palte I've been eyeing up  :-X

demons are great go with demons.

ha ha bork just does not want to lose to me again :P

i still cry when i see TNB pig riders  ::)

Hi Jim, be welcome. I think I read something from you on the Pulp City board...

As it was stated, you can field two mourners. As for the damned of flesh, you have to keep in mind that Hell Dorado is a skirmish game, and fielding more than 3 same troopers can be quite boring.

I hope you'll enjoy the game!

i find it so hard to double up on things because it means you cant usually fit everything else you want in if you do.

Besides, while the mourner is very powerful in an appropriate company, having 2 absolutely makes no sense as her main power is to make all Command spendings permanent and that would not stack so the second one would be rather useless.

why doubles when you can get somethig  diferent .. me  one of each only but off all the faction please ...   need to  buy the demons again  when I have money  :-[ :-[ :-[

Yep thats me from Pulp City boards

I've been keeping an eye on the game forever.  Its just started hitting the shelves locally and although I was waiting for full English transalation... well I caved in.  ;D

I know its a skirmish game and I personally do not like fielding the same sculpt in the force more than once, but troopers are common units and I expect to field a few of them.  I was hoping the damned of flesh would come in 2 or more scuplt variants for variety sake.  I'd prefer if they kept Officers, Troopers and independants seperately. That way if there is a figure I can field more than once  I can buy them and not have left over figures that I need to trade away.  Odds are everyone else will be doing the same thing.Jim

I saw the damned of flesh during the GenCon Paris and to be honest it is composed of so many parts (legs, arms, details) it will be easy to vary the assembly to create different miniatures.

Even more reason for it to be released seperately...   What did you think of the sculpt?   Any pictures?

Keep in mind it was the last release for the demons. It has to include the mourner at the same time as the demon of flesh.

Thanks to Bertrand Benoit the concept of the demon of flesh really differs from the illustration as you may see it into the rulebook.

This demons still presents many legs and arms but its body is not any more this massive amount of flesh but something lighter.

As I previously explained, there is so many different parts you may vary the position and so create a really dynamic miniature.


And no, no pictures of the wave 6 allowed during the GenCon (Unfortunately JAG managed very well to avoid any leak)

or different  poses  if you want  more than one ... clever

Here is a leak (my guesses in red)! Enjoy!

(http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4564/gcsamedi026qf4.jpg)

tooo smallllll  ???

much too small, got anything bigger?

It is on purpose if the picture is so small.

As you probably know Asmodee uses to introduce every new wave by posting concept arts, greens and painted models on the official web-site weeks before the release date.

They would like to keep it secret before this moment so you should not be abble to see any picture of this wave for the moment.

that's just mean though

I wholeheartedly agree, its on par with the spiteful things kids do across each-other in the playground.

You don't imagine how mean they are! They don't even want to tell me wether my guesses are right or not... I imagine they're looking for a place to rest their bones in Hell ;D

I love mzi.

His request to know who's who has just been rejected into the French section and he is already complaining about it with his english mates  ;D

Darned... you got me! As a matter of fact, I thought I was the only person wandering around both sections... ;D

Why do you think I selected the "Voyageuse" as avatar ?  :D

More seriously when I read my comment I realise I haven't been fair with Asmodee.

Geof's points is not to play with you by keeping things secret but to avoid problems.
Indeed as he previously explained French players are perfectionist and expect the best from Asmodee. (You should read the critics everytime a new miniatures is revealed: some comment are really harsh, limit disrespectful)

As prevention Geof prefers to be sure the quality of the pictures showing a new miniature is good enough to reflect the fantastic job Thomas David and JAG are producing. This way he limits negative feedback, even he he appreciate there will be some anyway.

In conclusion you should blame French players rather than Asmodee, even if I know Geof is most certainly pleased to make you upset

Hey... don't misunderstand me: I never blamed Asmodée for this damned small pic. And, as you might know, I have read previous harsh comments and I understand Asmodée's point of view.

Now *thats* something us Brits have had practice at.   ;D

I fully appreciate that and didn't incriminated you personally.

My mistake has been to respond your joke and explained to everyone the Asmodee point of view into the same comment. Only the avatar thing was adressed to you  :P

I do apologise if you took offence.

I am sure you had  ;D

No offence, really... Prepare to be crushed by my Squamata warriors! ;D

Is it another joke ?  ;D

I hope we get previews of Wave 6 soon after Wave 5, even if Wave 6 isn't being released until after the summer.