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Not too sure about the Greater Demon of Pride. The face looks a bit wierd being in a different colour. Guess that won`t be an issue for the model.
Reminds me of the end of Pumping Iron with Arnold Schwarzanegger when he is competing in the Mr. Olympia contest and he is posing next to a smaller bodybuilder who is basically a mini-Arnold.
i kind of like them, its a comical look but it makes them even more twisted IMO. will have to look at the rules to see how i can fit them in my army because it'll take alot to evict my grand dammed of wrath and succubus from my list
Agreed. The Grand Demon of Wrath is almost a signature piece for the demons. I was having a closer look at the stats the other night too and that succubus is a beast! I`m tempted to get another box set so I can field two and ebay off the Asaliah.
EDIT: Hang on a sec. According to the HellBuilder application at 4Thralls the Grand Demon of Pride doesn`t have a cost. Its associated to the standard Demon of Pride. Must be something that triggers off the transformation .....
Are there going to be demons for the other seven deadly sins besides pride, gluttony, wrath and sloth?
Citation de: Dogmeat le Mars 27, 2008, 16:09:16 PMIts associated to the standard Demon of Pride. Must be something that triggers off the transformation .....
No transformation here. They are both on the field, and they get a bonus when the other one dies (I think Courageous, but I don't have my book here).
Citation de: jty3 le Mars 27, 2008, 16:18:14 PMAre there going to be demons for the other seven deadly sins besides pride, gluttony, wrath and sloth?
They are expected in the expansion planned to release next year. Well at least I expect to see them in there ;)
Citation de: mathieu le Mars 27, 2008, 17:47:30 PM
Citation de: Dogmeat le Mars 27, 2008, 16:09:16 PMIts associated to the standard Demon of Pride. Must be something that triggers off the transformation .....
No transformation here. They are both on the field, and they get a bonus when the other one dies (I think Courageous, but I don't have my book here).
Yeah, its similar to Isaiah and the Golem.
CitationI was having a closer look at the stats the other night too and that succubus is a beast!
yeah at first glance i was going to use the infernal ambassador to use my spare 30 points up then after seeing what a succubus' stats are like when shes buffed herself up the choice was made ;D 8 in CBT and a DEF 6 against male opponants with a MOV of 14 means shes very much a opponant to be feared. looking forward to using her and the grand dammed of wrath as a bulldozer combo.
A resumé of what can ( and cannot do ::)) the miniature iof this fifth wave :
Westerners :
Alvaro Acheverra de Balguer : the old inquisitor is rather expensive and quite squishy, even if he can ( with humble results ;)) defend himself. He is quite costy, too, but fielding him will provide you 2 CMD points, which is Huge for Westerners. His unique order, Divne Stupor, can force models with a faith stat of 3 or less to give up their next activation. Last but not least, his aura of fanatism give the fanatic ability to all papists in a certain radius ( get slightly better stats when they are wounded).
Soeur Heloïse is, well, an homicidal nun. She is not deployed with your miniature, and will appear latter during the game ( in base to base with an ennemy model or anywhere on the battlefield, depending of the amount of CMD you are ready to paid for). She can attempt to Murder an ennemy model ( +5 fight for the next fight, to a total of 8 !!!). Spiritual damage. She is very annoying to contact ( on 4+, she desingage before anyone can roll dice).
Sarracens :
Dibukkims are soldiers, who, for some mysterious reasons, loose their sanity in hell. There stats are better than other human grunts, and they can behead their opponent before they blink an eye ( swift stryke/Attack, 10 dommages max, 4 CBT). But thing can get awry for all players if they are hurt : they quickly became berserk. In this state, they can receive no order, and, worst, they attack anyone, friends or foe...
Demons : the couple of Damned of Pride.
Well, the couple is the most expensive miniature in the entire game at the moment ( 42 points). The dwarf one is quite frail, but very deceitful. He automatically boost his fellow in a six inches radius ( +1 CBT? can stack with charisma) and has a second ability very funny ( called denoucement). The great one is basically a melee monster, in some ways, he is tougher than the Great Damned of Anger ( best DEF, can regenerate). He can defy an ennemy in base to base ( no one can disengage until the end of the fight). Of one of them die, the other one get Courage ( Special ability : I was the one who was right !).
Losts :
Squamatas pathfinders are master scout. They can camouflate in any rough terrain. Their Advanced Deployment 4 allow them to hurl poisoned javelines to the ennemy quickly.
Mercenary :
Squamatas wanderers are canny scouts ( Arpenteur, Eclaireur, Premier Contact) and capable fighters ( CBT 3, DEF 4, 7 hit points, PR 2) who will work for any factions. They are quite unexpensive, too ( 12 points).
interesting cheers for the run down
The nun sounds great! Nice assassination type character.
Dibbukims should be fun as well, they remind me of whirling dervishes!
The Assasin Nun sounds (and looks) fun.
im not wholly keen on my own models slaughtering my own guys, looking at my army list i doubt i can find a place for them in my sarracens list anyway.
They're probably similar to Warhammer Goblin Fanatics, or Warmachine Fellblades - keep 'em away from your units, and they won't be so much of a problem. :)
Ah, yes; keep them more than 2" from your troops, problem solved. RapidStrike (attack) is handy, too. Run 'em towards the enemy's goons, and let fly :)
I'm still trying to think of a better translation for "squamates" than simply "lizardmen".
aye and i remember just how much luck i had with my goblin fanatics, all the more reason to steer clear :D
Citation de: bork da basher le Mars 28, 2008, 11:34:52 AM
aye and i remember just how much luck i had with my goblin fanatics, all the more reason to steer clear :D
Ahh ... brings back memories.
When they work they work well. When they don`t your entire army crumbles to the weight of two goblins with big balls.
Hang on, that doesn`t sound right.
We do *need* some random demon action going on. Get some (neutral) wild animals that roam the board biting and snapping at whoever comes close.
i think thats what the terraformation rules will be for the terrain will be trying to eat us i dont think we need wild animals trying to do the same too. ;D
Citation de: AndrewGPaul le Mars 28, 2008, 11:21:50 AMI'm still trying to think of a better translation for "squamates" than simply "lizardmen".
"Squamata" is an English word. And it is broad enough to explain the various appearances within the race.
funny thing is that in the book the dibukin entry they don't get wound penalty , but the card show that they get wounded quite fast ... still they are a good frontliners for the sarracen... mix them with a panther or two
the model of vanity look quite close to his art work in the book
the card and painted version is up for gandering on the website now. wounded quickly but their stats dont suffer because of it. i assume its just to reflect their berserker status.
Yes, when the model is Wounded it enters the Bersek state which cancels wound penalties.
gotcha now I get it ... waiting on the Inquisitor model it will make a good combo with the misioner and the breteurs
Citation de: AndrewGPaul le Mars 28, 2008, 11:21:50 AM
I'm still trying to think of a better translation for "squamates" than simply "lizardmen".
Squamata would be the english version, as its the word for the scientific order of all recent reptiles. We use that word for the most part
Yeah, I'd seen that (on Wikipedia, of all paces). I was just wondering if there was something a little less obscure :)
To be fair it's obscure in French as well ;). I think it makes it more flavorful that they picked words that are not obvious to everyone but that have exactly the meaning they want to convey. For example I assume I'm not the only who didn't know the meaning of 'Margrave' (for Georg) or 'Draba' (for Sara).
Citation de: mathieu le Mars 29, 2008, 15:09:43 PM
To be fair it's obscure in French as well ;). I think it makes it more flavorful that they picked words that are not obvious to everyone but that have exactly the meaning they want to convey. For example I assume I'm not the only who didn't know the meaning of 'Margrave' (for Georg) or 'Draba' (for Sara).
I got no clue, please share. :)
margrave is german ,right ??? thik is something to do with controling land or beeing in charge of it ...
Draba ... or one of the hundres diferent plants ... or the famous gladiator ????
Margrave is actually in English dictionaries. To quote the Oxford American dictionary, it is the 'hereditary title of some princes of the Holy Roman Empire', and it comes from the Middle Dutch markgrave which is a 'count of a border territory'.
A draba would be a Gypsy spell, charm or amulet (depending on where you look at) in Romany, and a drabarni is a fortune-teller. Might be a spelling mistake, or it could be that in another language the draba is the caster rather than the spell... Either way it fits very well the Gypsy look of Sara.
Citation de: Dogmeat le Mars 27, 2008, 14:26:53 PM
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Not too sure about the Greater Demon of Pride. The face looks a bit wierd being in a different colour. Guess that won`t be an issue for the model.
Aw crap, looks like I'm going to be broke forever Lol :)