strongest and weakest faction

[Dogmeat]

i can attest to that particular strategy not being fun im on the recieving end of it more or less every time i play

I`ve switched over to Mercs now, so you shouldn`t be facing quite so many grenadiers.   

[Bork]

quite so many? you mean 3 instead of 4. you are kind   

[Dogmeat]

quite so many? you mean 3 instead of 4. you are kind   

Nah, closer to none.  Gilles is lacking in the good ol` Prestige.  Suppose I could find out my Voyageuse and give her a whirl.   

[Darth-Swen]

quite so many? you mean 3 instead of 4. you are kind   

Nah, closer to none.  Gilles is lacking in the good ol` Prestige.  Suppose I could find out my Voyageuse and give her a whirl.   

In my opinion to be allowed to use the best units of the different factions is everything but good for the balance of the game...

No offense but to discover some players used Rossinate, 2 grenaders and 2 hashishins make me sick. I hate this Prestige ability 

[Dogmeat]

quite so many? you mean 3 instead of 4. you are kind   

Nah, closer to none.  Gilles is lacking in the good ol` Prestige.  Suppose I could find out my Voyageuse and give her a whirl.   

In my opinion to be allowed to use the best units of the different factions is everything but good for the balance of the game...

No offense but to discover some players used Rossinate, 2 grenaders and 2 hashishins make me sick. I hate this Prestige ability 

Two hashashins (says Sean Connery) you say ?  Interesting ....   

[Darth-Swen]

quite so many? you mean 3 instead of 4. you are kind   

Nah, closer to none.  Gilles is lacking in the good ol` Prestige.  Suppose I could find out my Voyageuse and give her a whirl.   

In my opinion to be allowed to use the best units of the different factions is everything but good for the balance of the game...

No offense but to discover some players used Rossinate, 2 grenaders and 2 hashishins make me sick. I hate this Prestige ability 

Two hashashins (says Sean Connery) you say ?  Interesting ....   

Even more you still have 1 CMD point left to buy another grenader if you think your army is not strong enough 

As a side note I would like to decline the game we were supposed to have together   

[Bork]

i have issues with mercs and race of origin myself. i used isiah and the golum in my demon army t'other day and felt dirty for it really. jew and satanists working hand in hand strikes me as wrong.

its the same thing for warhammer chaos gods, im hugely opposed to god mixing there too, it spoils the fluff of the army and in a way takes away a fun part of the hobby.

id be a change to play mercs though mark never played against a pure merc list before. a think a mourner might be in my lists to dent giles a little bit with all his lovely orders.

[Dogmeat]

Mercs are Mercs.  They like the money.  You can always think of it more as the enemy of my enemy is my friend.  I would be interested in seeing some religious campatability thing for taking Mercs in other armies though. Something as simple as "Isiah will not work for a Satanic leader" or "Charon will work for anybody".

Sara from the Westerners army is a Satanist but seems to do ok with all those Christians around.  I guess the fact she`s bewitched Vargas could help.   

[Nutzoide]

Sara from the Westerners army is a Satanist but seems to do ok with all those Christians around.  I guess the fact she`s bewitched Vargas could help.   

That's a nice example that already sets the precedent. Also, while we can see their religion printed on their cards, I automatically assumed that some characters, especially mercs, wouldn't be wearing their higher allegiance pinned to their lapels! I can really see Gilles commanding a mixed christian/unbeliever/whatever band for 'the greater good', wink wink. Or someone like Isiah or Gotz allying themselves to others for a genuine greater good, and hopefully to convert some of those heathen rabble along the way by demonstrating his power on the battlefield. Or just to go turncoat after the worst were dealt with. It's not necessarily obvious which factions/religions some of these characters might consider to be the greatest threats, ideologically.

I guess it's how you see the flavour of each character.

[Worm]

May seems that the tendancies for part three are :

In part three,
- Saracens
- Mercs
- Westerners
- Daemons
- Losts

Westerners found their way using WMD : big and strong armies using grenadiers aplenty and Sister Eloise, plus a tactic with Georg using their special card to get domination and Georg's order.

Losts begins to pay hard not to have any tricky combos, but we're still a big challenge for our opponent if they make any mistake.

As I explained in the French part, I think there's different levels of expertise :
For me, Losts are a basic army : we win when opponent fails. Simple as that.

[nightwatch]

WMD? weapons of mass destruction! are all these results with 100% faction specific or do the include mercs on each side ?
daemons are a lot lower than i thought

[Silveri]

I would guess that demons tend to have very similiar lists with similiar strategies that people learn to play around. The other armies may pose some more variability into their tactics. More or less a shot-in-the-dark-idea though.

Saracens have a heck of a lot of combo potential so that may explain their good ranking.

[nightwatch]

well as i stated in this post earlier, we now play lost and westerners, and i must say westerners at the moment are playing really well,
i thought at first the demons may have been to powerful, hence going for lost, (as its me an the missus) but i think after a few games its more on play style and finding weaknesses in the opposing army, must say the pavlova bird seems a hard cookie

[Worm]

Demons are really powerful because they are all around : they can answer to everybody.

Grenades ? We have a lot of hp and health capacities
Contact ? Come on and play with my Big Damneds on my Succubus without Vae Soli/victis thanks to the ambassador.
Combos ? Great, we have someone who crys for you...

But demons are the only army where you can't buy all that you need. You have to make choices.

Moreover, they share another weakness with the Losts, having no troops able to reach protected weaknesses, like hashishins does. Things will change when Shah Ren Ze will come.

Last point : I noticed that demons players are mainly the most attached to the fact of beeing pure. Even in tournaments, only a few of them takes people who are not coordinated with the "style" (like Gotz, Golem or Squamates).

Demons Roxxx

[BeBert]

I would guess that demons tend to have very similiar lists with similiar strategies that people learn to play around

I don't think so.
Daemons like saracens have a lot of possibilities. Each reference is really different from the others, and all are well balanced, so you will find a lot of "competitive" lists. That's not the case for example with Lost and Westerners.