[Official] 1635 rules and cards

[mathieu]

The rules and cards were posted in French here.

Here is a quick (and not so pretty) translation of the rules. The cards (or at least the changes compared to their 1634 versions) will come tomorrow. Well some of them at least.

EDIT:
the Lost
Demons
Saracens
Westerners
Mercs
Please don't hesitate to let me know if you spot any mistakes/typos.

[themailedfist]

Thank you Mathieu.

Was there really that much abuse of Mercenaries to need these rules?  I've never actually used any Mercs along with my Westerners, so I am a little surprised to see this.

Also - is there a CLEAR ruling on how we are to use the 1635 versions?  Do they replace the 1634?  Are they optional?  Can we mix and match old and new in a forcelist?  Etc?

--Robert

[CCCP]

Do they replace the 1634?

Yes. And the english cards will be release soon.

[themailedfist]

Hello, CCCP folks.

So the old cards are No Longer To Be Used?

Just trying to be clear here.

---Robert

[CCCP]

So the old cards are No Longer To Be Used?

Yes

[themailedfist]

Thank you very much for the clarity.

--Robert

[Bork]

i thought they wernt going to raise the points cost of anything, foulques the black is 2pts more  and spitters gone up 1AP too.

they've cottoned onto asaliah being able to control bran too (immune/controlled  ) i did so love killing stuff with bran, one of the few ways to stop him with any kind of reliability.

[Silveri]

Whoa, most of the saracens were boosted...

[Joona]

Should the Grenadiers pistol also have Penetrating strike like the Fencer has? It's not in the French card but I was wondering if this was a mistake or done on purpose? (OK, the pistol is quite useless compared to the grenade but still...).

[Bork]

westerners are getting serious changes to their officiers, baptiste and georg both 5 and 10ap cheaper respectively both with boosted CMD values, this is something they really needed. CMD points are always thin on the ground with westerners, might get some initiative to use mine now.

i like how all the high end offiiciers are now 70pts ish, makes them far more playable. like the changes to the obese damned of gluttony too, really changes how he's played.

bran is MUCH better now and the only high end officier not to be reduced (rightly so) terror/2, CBT 8, reduced warcray cost and CMD 5 make him the unstoppable juggernaut he should be with better Leadership abilities. still hefty points cost but your really getting what you pay for now.

etruscillas new order is nice and will save her bacon more than once i think

overall i like virtually everything thats been changed. nothing game breaking and just the small changes will really change peoples armies as so many minis are now more of a viable choice, the default selection list each faction has wont be as defined anymore. good job

[Lemminkäinen]

Damned of Wrath also got Premier Choc, which is missing from the English file.

Huge thanks, Mathieu!

[mathieu]

Damned of Wrath also got Premier Choc, which is missing from the English file.

Good catch, thanks.

All the card changes are now up. I'll update them accordingly as small modifications keep coming (Wormpile is supposed to get Intangible, for example).

[WEiRD sKeTCH]

Thanks again mathieu. Your help with these translations are invaluable. 

[Nutzoide]

Thanks mathieu! It's great to know how things have shaped up already, though I'll now worry more for my poor squishy demons when they finally get an outing!

Though I can't really call the obese glutton "squishy" any more, which feels really weird!

[Lemminkäinen]

Saracen's Jafar the Efreet's order of getting free charges also changed so that it can only be triggered when (friendly?) Saracen models die. Which is a really good thing

Can someone explain the addition to Sha Ren Zhe's order - does it mean that he will fight twice after the teleport? Also, does Charon's order's Stunned state function differently from the usual Stunned state which lasts for X activations as opposed to X turns (X being one in this case)?